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    Ford Scraps Jags Aluminum Plans

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11659904/

    Bye Bye aluminum S-type.....welcome back to steel
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    A shame because, as stated in the article, the unfairly negative effect of sharing a platform under Ford's restrictions has just done more to damage the brand. Alloy bodied X and S types would be the way to go....

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    they make it seem as if Jag is not selling any cars at all. Next thing you know....they start comparing it to Rover. Jaguar needs something, and something big.....either...1) more models.....2) better technology and gizmos to keep up with the compitiion.......3) given something (i dunno) to make people want it
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    Quote Originally Posted by CARZ
    Jaguar needs something, and something
    Jaguar needs to be allowed to produce its own models and given the means to do so. Surely Ford MUST have learnt this after the X and S Type issues - worthy cars unfairly knobbled at birth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytona
    Quote Originally Posted by CARZ
    Jaguar needs something, and something
    Jaguar needs to be allowed to produce its own models and given the means to do so. Surely Ford MUST have learnt this after the X and S Type issues - worthy cars unfairly knobbled at birth.
    I know the X type of often (unfairly?) labelled a luxury Mondeo, but where does the S fit in? Surely thats another model entirely.

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    i guess you can say the S-type is a poshed up Lincoln LS......built off the same platform
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    Quote Originally Posted by CARZ
    i guess you can say the S-type is a poshed up Lincoln LS......built off the same platform
    Ah I see.

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    The Lincoln and S used the same platform initially then Jag tweaked theirs in 2002. Meanwhile Ford chopped six inches off the Lincon wheelbase to make the Thunderbird.

    I expect the next S will use a modification of the current steel structure but with aluminium skin panels. Or maybe even plastics/composites. They are in the unfortunate position of running out of cash just when they need to replace their offereing in the most competitive sector. If Ian Callum comes up with another beauty and they load it with the latest toys they could have a winner, especially with a highly developed diesel engine, even with an oldschool steel body.

    However, the S has to compare with the rest of the range and getting worse mpg and slower acceleration than the huge XJ6 does not flatter the car. Perhaps an all turbo engine range would help blur the boundaries? A twin turbo V6 or V8 with 20% more power might turn a few heads without increasing the car's suddenly prodigious looking thirst.
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    Jaguar needs to focus a bit more on sportyness and power. Everyone already knows the luxury aspect, but its time to step up in the power game. Its behind in all classes. the X-type BARELY performed better than the previous 3 series, untill the 2006 models came out. the S and XJ are completly out of the loop.

    what they should REALLY do is take the engine from the Ford GT and throw that into the XK or XJ that would be BADASSSSSS
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    I know this is not quite what you are talking about here but the two Jag dealers I have had to deal with in the last 4 weeks, and we still haven't got the car yet, have been less than impressive. The first seemed to think we were wasting their time and the second seemed very good until they had got us to agree to buy the car now they are behaving like a dodgy back street car dealer, with unreturned phone calls and delivery time changes that are really beginning to hack me off. Do I expect the car to have all the work done that they agreed to do??? No, I don't but I hope to be proven wrong obviously, I just didn't expect to be saying things like this about a Jag dealer.

    Maybe they should look at the way dealers are acting, as at the moment I wouldn't go back and neither would my friends and family.

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