Unluckiest Jaguar Owners Ever???? We now have a ruined car!

[BRG02]

Trevor, it goes without saying that I totally echo the comments already made and I am truly sorry and shocked at the outcome of the trial. I can only beging to imagine the shock and also loss of faith in the Justice system that you are feeling right now, but as Wilf has said, you are not alone here and everyone is right behind you.

I can appreciate your reluctance to accept help, but Wilf is right, it's not up for debate, your one of life's good people and you have been shat on and put in a miserable position by a ruthless, ignorant dealer - you don't deserve that, no one does and people want to help.

[Oriel]

Trevor, it goes without saying that I totally echo the comments already made and I am truly sorry and shocked at the outcome of the trial. I can only beging to imagine the shock and also loss of faith in the Justice system that you are feeling right now, but as Wilf has said, you are not alone here and everyone is right behind you.

I can appreciate your reluctance to accept help, but Wilf is right, it's not up for debate, your one of life's good people and you have been shat on and put in a miserable position by a ruthless, ignorant dealer - you don't deserve that, no one does and people want to help.

What he said...

Pride is a dreadfully hard thing to put aside, but allow it to be pushed over by other's desire to help and goodwill at this time, hun?

Hugs for what is a awful goddamned cr@p time for you right now - and eagerly awaiting the PayPal addy...

R x

[woodlandtechie]

I've been lurking in the background watching this unfold....

Sorry but I can't call this justice in any shape or form..f£ckin w&ankers

I'm beginning to lose all faith in this country and it's so called leaders!!!

Don't have much myself but sure as hell I'll contribute what I can.

one word PAYPAL

[Jon S]

Trevor,

I think we are all shocked by this turn of events.

In my view it's time for all of us who offered our verbal support to show that these were not just idle words. Practical support i.e. hard cash is what's needed.

Paypal or whatever, we should all do our bit. Rich or poor. Whatever we can afford.

I hold my hand up - I was one of many who told you to soldier on, so count me in.

Jon S

Oh and I am sure it is not libellous to state the name of the dealer - it is a matter of public record. I am sure they would wish their 'triumph' to be publicised....

[EOS20D]

Blimey Jon please don't think for one moment that anyone other than me is responsible for this. I am incredibly grateful for all your support.

I can probably say this, for anyone that wants to see the records if they are on-line at any stage.

Trevor Matthews V Guy Salmon Jaguar Northampton
Northampton County Court
Case Number 7NN03833

[EOS20D]

Note to Admin

Any chance of a new "Shafted" smilie ?

[zed]

Guy Salmons, might have b******y known. I'm truly gutted for you Trev, let us help.

[Gadget12]

Trev,

I had my day in court the same day as you - as it had nothing to do with the Jag, I hadn't mentioned it on here.

After 3 long and very stressful years, and over $75,000 costs; after listening to the judges comments and looking at all that happened (and DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!) I can truly say ' the law is an ass'.

What is ethically, morally and decently right are not necessarily legally right - and that is a sad thing. When added to the horrendous costs involved - what hope has the average person got?

Trev, I too am willing to put some money into a paypal account for you - simply because a) I believe you... and b) because I hate injustices. Having just been through it too, I truly appreciate how you must be feeling - please count me in, and accept it as an indication that there are still decent people in this world.

[Victor]

BUGGER. It's all been said. When the dust has settled Trevor, and the bill is in, there are quite a few members who would like to help, it won't be a lot, but it might buy a couple of bottles of wine and we will all have a drink.
At this moment it must be depressing and bad for you, now, it's over, pick yourself up by the boot straps and move on.
I think we have all got the message about a certain nationwide car dealer.
Their reputation wasn't good before this, it's in tatters now. SPREAD THE WORD FOLKS.

[wilf]

Trevor - this will be my last post before I go off for the weekend.

Please let me see a paypal address when I get back on Monday - if not, I will set one up and collect monies for you (everyone else, how would you like me to do that so I can prove what came in and what was sent on to Trevor was one and the same?). I can see the name of the fund now - the "Salmon is off" fund.

We all encouraged you to take this piece of pond life on - we have a collective responsibility to help now.

As I said, the first thing you need is some excellent representation at the costs hearing. That is where the key element will be decided. You did your part by keeping your costs rock bottom (by representing yourself) - that has to help.

[Daytona]

Those comments from the judge are, for me, another stab in the back as regards their credibility in the real world. Justice in this country seems to bend over in favour of those who commit crimes and not enough standing up for the normal law abiding tax payers. Gutted for you, Trev.

[x-dave]

I've refrained from posting in this thread to date, despite following it religiously for some months now, because I knew what you have just seen and did not want to throw water on your hope of winning. In truth justice is rarely given to the little guy despite the popular misconception. The judge will see all the defence lawyers, witnesses, etc, and assume that they must be correct to have gone to all that trouble. The fact her opinion changed sour so rapidly when the judge saw your car makes me wonder if there may not have been an element of 'oh well he drives a Jaguar' stereotype in there, and probably some degree of thinking you are a troublemaker (not having been there those are merely an assumption on my bahelf). I watched it happen to a friend, and see the same thing all the time.

It beggars belief that the judge decided all that damage was done by a rear window despite the extent of it being totally incompatible with that cause and (if I have read it correctly) engineer reports stating that it was not possible.

None of us will ever use that dealer again, and most will think very carefully before using any of their affiliated franchises, but we are small and for every one of us there are a hundred other customers who will still use them. The defendants know this full well -- they will be reading all these threats not to use them again and rolling their eyes whilst rubbing their hands together. Don't give them the satisfaction of bankrupting you too.

Please do take some time off this weekend to try and take your mind off of this stressfull week, and come next week give some serious thought to accepting the offer of financial help. I know it is hard to do, not the British way of doing things at all, and goes against your pride, but a number of people here want badly to help and not let the little guy get screwed over for any more in this case. Collectively we may only able to raise a few hundred pounds for you, or maybe a few thousand, but that's not the point. We are all members of this online community and many want to step in and help our friends when problems arrive to help us all enjoy our cars and the forums. The sense of community on our streets has disapeared but it still exists here at least. Whether it is with money, advice, or banter, we all contribute where we can, and that is one of the reasons this forum is such a great place to be.

I'm gutted for you Trevor, you've been screwed over in the worst way, but at least you know you did the right thing and have nothing to be ashamed of. Please let us know if the decision is posted on the Internet.

[w.bishop]

EOS20D like me you found out there is no justice and I truly feel for you.

In my case at the age of 68 I was evicted from my own home of 36 years and it was given to my ex wife, she was allowed to move back in untill it was sold, she and I were together for 12 years. The first judge said she was entitled to one sixth from the sale of the house, value £210,00 but she ended up with it all as she was a lady mason.

[Roy47]

Really gutted for you

I don't do paypal ,but I got a cheque book and pen

[davecymru]

Hi Trev,
I know you don't know me personally, but i thought it only right to add my support for you.

I am personally AMAZED that the dealership followed this course of action AND took it so far!

I would say that the damage caused to their reputation by them perusing this case in this manner will hit them much harder than if they had just admitted that "accidents happen" and repaired you car!